I Nets dicono NO a McGee, Hickson ed una scelta per Brook Lopez

Niente di che, ha solo risposto ad una fantatrade postata da un tifoso così:



hey Deuce. I know this is the homer trade thread but just so you know Milwaukee can't take back 4 players because we don't have roster spots and we wouldn't be interested at all in Shved or Terry(well for Terry I can't be sure coz of Kidd). We would definitely ask back for Capella though and picks. Btw Ersan's last year contract is only 400k guaranteed.
Last night Knight had his first DNP of the season. Surprise surprise Giannis was majestic and Middleton had a season high and we beat the Craptors with only 5 NBA players 37 y.o K-Mart's corpse and a D-Leaguer. I hope we trade him to the ROX. Much better fit there and Morey will pay him. I feel he's hurting our young players tbh.

If Denver doesn't decide to pull the trigger on Lawson Knight may be the best available choice. Plus his defence is tons better he doesn't have constant ankle injuries like Ty and he can provide instant scoring.


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Wait.... how do you even know who Capella is? Furthermore, you view him as an asset that could make or break a deal for Knight?


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I know who Capella is because I also follow the Rockets. When your team plays in the East that's what you end up doing -following a Western team too to watch some nice bball. Capella isn't a deal breaker but it's certain he would be on the desired package. Shved Terry Johnson would be of no use especially since there are no roster spots available. Milwaukee is rebuilding and has the time and patience to develop someone like Capella who is two years away from being two years away and should have stayed in Europe for a couple more years. Do Rockets have?
Anyway I don't try to fight just to drop a bit of info in case someone is interested to make more informed trade proposals but if you want to carry on the homeristic ones carry on.

Ok, in caso aggiungo se ci sono "novità", comunque ai Nets ha provato a rifilarlo Javale xD magari se ci attacca Lawson almeno una 1a se la prende...sei così basso sull'ubriacone?

Ora ha appena scritto (per rispondere a uno che gli chiedeva com'è Knight):



He is a willing defender who always contests shots even tries to block( that's why he has been in a few bad highlights). He gets rebounds. He shoots great from the 3pt line is very much CLUTCH and can finish in traffic .
Now with all that said you may wonder why Bucks fans would be open to trading him. Well he overdribbles he can't run very well the pick and roll and he has problem in distributing the ball in fast breaks. There are some who feel that he is even hindering the growth of our other young players because he is more looking to score and do too much. As the season goes on Kidd has been moving him more and more off ball and he seems to have improved very much.
But I don't know if the FO will pay both him and Middleton all that money to play the same position.
I think he will be a good fit for the Rockets as second ball handler next to Harden or when Harden has to sit. Also imo having to play next to an MVP caliber player as Harden is and in the West may do him well and he realises what his role is and stops trying to do all by himself.

Perché dici?

2) dici? Per Mozgov 2 prime le ha prese, vero che ha una to da 4 kilos, quindi ottimo contratto (ed è un C), ma Lawson in linea di massima penso possa valere di più, a 11x3 poi non sarà male anche in ottica futura, su McGee non sono convinto neanch'io comunque, nessuno se lo prende, almeno per quest'anno.


3) Leggi sotto xD

Un tifoso dei Rockets gli ha scritto:



What if us netting Brandon Knight only came at the cost of us absorbing Larry Sanders?

If he came here and honestly had no intent of ever playing in the NBA again, how would we address it? Waive him and stretch it? What would the damage be and for how long? Or is there another way to deal with his contract?


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Even though as a Bucks fan that would be the ideal scenario..you don't have to worry about it. Sanders is unmovable. Noone is going to take a chance on him especially not someone as genius as Morey is. He isn't Josh Smith or McGee he is refusing to play any kind of bball and just wants to smoke pot and get the checks.
Larry is Bucks problems and he will get a buyout or we will try to void his contract.

I thought with the Rox cap situation and how Morey values flexibillity for next year Knight's new contract would make him a red flag but if you think that Morey is going to pay him what he is looking for then the chances of a deal imo go much up.




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Not sure you could get BOTH Middleton and Knight.

Bucks fans seem to really appreciate Middleton. Like a Wes Mathews type player.

Bucks fans are not huge on Knight as a long term "true pg." They feel he is more of a 2. Which for the Rockets with a defacto PG in Harden, seems like a good fit.




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Exactly. That's why I also said that he would be a great fit next to Harden.
Middleton is looking for 10 per but our insider said that chances are it's going to be settled at 9 and we are very much high on him. But Knight at 12-13 per may be too much for us at this moment. We still have a very young very small young core and we may not be interested yet to invest all that into Knight because it's too soon.
I really don't know if he will get traded or not but he is NOT untouchable.

Eh bo, io non ho modo di giudicare, riporto e basta, comunque si è presentato come tifoso dei Bucks ed ha postato quando è uscito il discorso Knight, quindi credo sia affidabile, nel senso che è sicuramente un tifoso dei Bucks, poi lui a sua volta dice che riporta cose dette da un (presunto, perché io non l'ho mai letto, non so chi sia) insider che posta in qualche forum dei Bucks.

Visto che si parla di Nuggets (e Bucks), ti riporto quello che ha postato un tifoso dei Bucks su clutchfans ieri e oggi, son due post:



Hey guys. First post here. How much of an insider is Doc Rocket?
I am a Bucks fan who also follows the Rockets and I can tell you our insider also told us that Henson is involved in trade talks. We also have been trying to get Lawson from Denver as well. So I can confirm that Denver is open to trading him. But they are looking for two firsts at least while unloading McGee.
Knight would be the perfect fit next to Harden. We have failed to negotiate his extension so far and the difference is around 3-4 million. But Kidd and the owners love him. So we may be open to trade him but only for a very good deal.





Hey guys. Thanx for the welcome.
I don't know if Doc refers to Knight all I can tell you for sure is that it has been leaked from our side that Henson is involved in trade talks and that the only trully untouchables from the Bucks are JP GA DI and Zaza. Knight is not yet decided to be part of our core and there is a difference of 3-4 millions per year. Knight asks for 13-14(!) per but Bucks are looking into 10-11. No matter if he is named an all star or not thats too much to pay him so maybe if they get a good deal they will trade him. We are a rebuilding team no matter if we made the playoffs or not so any deal that sends us back picks and young prospects will interest us.
Also about Lawson ..it doesn't make much sense to me as well why we would target him but our insider told us two three weeks ago that we are trying to but Denver is asking for too much.
You have to understand that not every team has a GM like Morey. Our GM right now is Kidd himself and most coaches make bad GMs imo because they are looking more in the win now and are shortsighted.
I just found it interesting that Henson's name now has been mentioned also by one of your insiders. There may be a deal in the works.

Per me scambio osceno per entrambe!

Javale avrà un valore verso la fine della prox stagione, ora come ora è da folli accollarsi gli 11.5 milioni di quest'anno e soprattutto i 12 del Prossimo. Certo è che i Nets con i 23 di Johnson ed i 19 di di J-Will pure si son azzoppati. Aggiungere questi altri 2 contratti è follia pura. Meglio tenersi Lopez che almeno sta producendo cose buone.

Mamma mia che roba oscena in cambio.................

Ah beh chiaro tutto dipende da quello che è il vostro reale obiettivo. A mio avviso non avete bisogno di Lopez, se però la dirigenza crede di poter fare un salto di qualità con lui, allora la trade che ho proposto io mi sembra abbastanza sensata. Se invece l'obiettivo principale è quello di disfarsi di Javale, allora il discorso si chiude qui, perchè per quanto possiate modificare l'offerta, dubito che i Nets siano disposti ad accollarsi questo peso morto.

In questo momento è impossibile riuscire a piazzare McGee.

Vabbè nella mia ipotesi dovreste cedere solo uno tra Afflalo (che ha una PO per la prossima stagione) e Chandler (che in ottica futura immagino rappresenti la riserva del Gallo) + l'inutile Hickson + l'inutile Foye + la scelta...

Coinvolgere una terza squadra con bisogno di un centro, Houston per dirne una, sarebbe una possibile soluzione.

Può darsi. ..

Se sostituiscono McGee con Chandler/Afflalo + Foye (che ha una TO per la prossima stagione), forse i Nets potrebbero prendere in considerazione la trade.

Ma infatti sto dicendo che Lopez salvo scambi molto vantaggiosi (e non se ne vedono) NON va ceduto! Sta producendo cifre pazzesche uscendo dalla panchina, offre opzioni offensive che con plumlee non possiamo avere e contro Toronto è stato a lungo in campo insieme a Plumlee e bene! Se Hollins trova la quadratura con entrambi l'upgrade è notevole e ce l'abbiamo in casa...

Si ma parliamoci chiaramente (e concordo con la dirigenza Nets): perchè prendere 2 centri con quei contrattoni? Intasi solo il cap e alla fine non migliori, sei allo stesso punto di prima. Anzi, a mio avviso peggiori. Va bene prenderne 1/2, ma o free agent oppure a costo contenuto

e datelo via che voglio piu minuti a plumlee che mi serve al fanta susu

A lunghi in realtà stiamo messi maluccio... plumlee è il punto fermo, ma poi ci sono solo KG e Lopez! Jefferson da quarto sta facendo fin troppo! C'è da chiedersi perché non rifirmare Blatche, ma ormai è tardi x ripensarci. Questo x dire che i lunghi ci servono, eccome! Ma il rendimento di Lopez oggi è comodamente da top fine tra i centri della Lega, sostituirlo con chi? Per rapporto costo-rendimento si punta a tradire JJ x ricostruire a partire da una SG vera!

La trade potenzialmente è anche buona a mio avviso, ma ai Nets non interessa minimamente un lungo, anzi forse Lopez è pure di troppo. Puntano giustamente su Plumlee e ingolfare il CAP con Hickson e McGee è tanto inutile quanto stupido.

Che tristezza.....almeno fosse infortunato come al solito Lopez magari l'avrebbero accettata ma così proprio no

Ah.... Così l'hanno alzata???

Ma Javale è rotto per la stagione?...cmq gongolata hawks che si prenderanno la scelta nets

Se ne potrebbe parlare solo se inseriscono un'altra pick o Harris. Messa così, è davvero poca roba.