Pacers had a long discussion after the loss in Houston

Candace Buckner: The postgame summits are continuing & growing. #Pacers including Paul George, Hibbert, West talked for extended time inside coaches' lounge. Several of those players remained in there for at least 15-20 minutes before showering, seemingly having a State of the Team session.

It's not just David West this time raising the red flag of concern. George Hill and P. George both appeared ticked off yet ready for change. Hill: "We're not the same team. I feel like last year, even the beginning of this year, we were a team that really mucked the game up...

"We just got to figure out how to get back to mucking the game up and playing our style of ball." G. Hill.

Paul George: "It's the first time we probably lost three in a row. (Sh--)'s gotta change. Sorry for the language but it's gotta change."